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18-March-2013, 15:58

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Although being with the best intentions, if that policy of a mandatory picture of the card entitlements is enforced I foresee a lot of troubles ahead with people forgetting to edit out the serial number of their cards and "scouts" of the TV providers reporting home to terminate those cards.

To fight card fakers, mandating that each peer mentions in every post/PM his card ECM times could be more effective. We should know the average ECM time for that card in particular (so we can see beforehand if something is off). Then, once connected to the peer, we just add the measured "ping" to his reported ECM time and voil: that should be just about the ECM time at our box -- if it consistently deviates too much then the peer has some explaining to do.

Something I would also make mandatory is mentioning (in every post/PM) the version number of the emu being used. That should go for every emu out there, not just Oscam.
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Great initiative! If such a section is opened, I suggest including a mandatory RECENT picture that outlines the entitlements of a user's card(s). This can potentially reduce the number of cardfakers as it's something that is VERY easy to do in Oscam. Also, the use of N or C-lines should be reconsidered. The newcamd protocol is quicker than Cccam as it is less chatty. Also, a cache-ex section would be great! :)

nlines are never going to happen....


there is no need for them using oscam for free sharing...... other then showing your peers card..as your own.


cache-ex is another thing that aint happening.. as the resources needed.cpu/ram/kickass internet..go beyond what is deemed a "free server" and not affordable to all..


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a little exemple!!!
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a little exemple!!! - 18-March-2013, 16:18

Yes you right, for cache ex need a lots of CPU, a little more ram and pick all internet sandwich (is more hungry that all) but I'm not agree with "free servers" why:
1. first i have a Oscam with 5 cards and 4 CAID (1880, 0b01, 0b02 and 183D), and i exchange cache ex (but filtered - only my CAIDS and i send only my CAIDS), conclusion - 30% of ECM open fast from cache3, for me this is not "free servers" cache generated from real card (for this i use and send only hop2 ),
for me this procedures help 2 partners that have REAL cards to make a great "DEAL"...
2. about CPU RAM and Internet overdose = if used hop2, filtered cache and some cycle setting don't should me a problems anymore, my server work "normally" on a Samsung net book with 2GB Ram and Atom at 1.7 Ghz




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nlines are never going to happen....


there is no need for them using oscam for free sharing...... other then showing your peers card..as your own.


cache-ex is another thing that aint happening.. as the resources needed.cpu/ram/kickass internet..go beyond what is deemed a "free server" and not affordable to all..


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18-March-2013, 16:34

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Yes you right, for cache ex need a lots of CPU, a little more ram and pick all internet sandwich (is more hungry that all) but I'm not agree with "free servers" why:
1. first i have a Oscam with 5 cards and 4 CAID (1880, 0b01, 0b02 and 183D), and i exchange cache ex (but filtered - only my CAIDS and i send only my CAIDS), conclusion - 30% of ECM open fast from cache3, for me this is not "free servers" cache generated from real card (for this i use and send only hop2 ),
for me this procedures help 2 partners that have REAL cards to make a great "DEAL"...
2. about CPU RAM and Internet overdose = if used hop2, filtered cache and some cycle setting don't should me a problems anymore, my server work "normally" on a Samsung net book with 2GB Ram and Atom at 1.7 Ghz

ok... and you know..how... we togther figured out... how to test your cards... and how you use your reshare...

do u think... all people.. act that fair? remember you were banned for stealing my reshares.. if i would have left it at that...we would not be here now.

i do not... think all people..are fair...or trustworthy...

and that is what we are here for...

so we have a clean fair share... without having to worry..about supporting some payserver kunt..thats is using my cache.or card... through a 3rd party.....


i am not going to waste time and energy ...checking and rechecking people.....that use nlines and ..cache-ex...

the first hurdle we need to jump... is getting a oscam local section opened!!!

cache-ex maybe somewhere down the road...

but first people..need to learn to walk..b4 they can run!

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19-March-2013, 00:11

First time i have read this thread as i have not been about and before i read the comments i voted yes and why not

Cache is the way forward i think but i understand staffs concerns regarding people who dont share fairly so it is a fair comment tbh/

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19-March-2013, 17:36

i would say yes because so many are on oscam.
i have cccam server and playing with my other card on oscam.
for a noob like me its hard but nice to play arround!

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20-March-2013, 12:50

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Cache is the way forward i think but i understand staffs concerns regarding people who dont share fairly so it is a fair comment tbh/
just so i know ppl are not just repating something they read somewhere :

how do you share cache "unfairly"? :)


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20-March-2013, 13:34

I would like to an oscam section. I would like to find peers to share cachex data. I have read about a few peers testing this and think this would be a useful function


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20-March-2013, 21:33

i have also voted for OScam because, it is for future, sure. but in comparison with CCCAM is more complicated. complicated in the sence, for a Layman as me, can't figure it out with Parameters. i had Probs. with my Via.card and cccam 2.3.0, changed to OSCAM, no probs to start with, but couldn't tune it correctly , have Freezes with Picture and Box. changed again to lower Version of CCCAM. but, i will run OSCAM, it is fast developing, updates everyday, but as i said earlier, complicated for beginners.....!!!
   
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21-March-2013, 03:09

Since i moved from cccam to oscam my server is running more better than cccam , in the beginning i hade some problems with configuring but now i think its very well.
i have olso tring card that it is read only from oscam
i had some test with some people using cache ex but for it uses all internet connection so i removed it , but cache ex from the local card is very good
i have 10-20 % ecm from cache so its very good
faker and anfair peers will be around all the times if there is oscam section or not

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i had some test with some people using cache ex but for it uses all internet connection so i removed it
that's because you were exchanging all cache ;-)
that's not what cache exchange was meant for (that's how the payserver scums are using it).

cache exchange is supposed to be per caid , and with those people that have the same caid as you ... why? simple : to avoid unnecessarily causing load on your card (and NOTHING else!).

example :

you have Tring, your friend has also Tring (same card etc etc).
Peer A (connected to you) wants to watch Tring Comedy , requests ECM reply from you, and gets it ...
At the same time, Peer B (connected to your friend) also wants to watch Tring Comedy, requests ECM reply from your friend, and gets it.

In this example, BOTH cards have been bothered with the same ECM reply.
If you and your friend exchange your cache, then your friend would have replied with the ECM reply that your card created (for Peer B, this makes no difference, he still gets to watch Tring Comedy), and wouldn't have bothered his card, making it possible to do another request instead. This request could've been, for example, for Tring Sport 1, which then in return gets pushed to you, so that Peer C who is on your server and wants to watch Tring Sport 1 doesn't have to ask your card ... etc etc :)

I'm aware why cold007 and the rest are pointing out the risks of fraud with Oscam ... but really, the benefits of Oscam _substantially_ outweigh the risks, especially when you consider that more than half of Eurocardsharing already IS using Oscam (as you guys pointed out yourself, the number of cards currently requiring Oscam to be read is insane ... ).

Having an Oscam section would finally make things transparent, rather than having that official stance of "Oscam is forbidden!" and secretly using it (i know of at least 3 Mods that are using it as their main CS software ;-) ).


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