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Question Peers with 5,6 and more cards... - 11-October-2012, 23:52

Last days in this forum i noticed that many people have 5, 6 or more cards.

Who can afford so many subscriptions.

Examples:
Cyfra + Full Abo ~ 50 EUR
http://cyfraplus.pl/zamow_cyfre.html

Polsat Full Abo ~ 30 EUR
http://www.cyfrowypolsat.pl/oferta/t...ckageGroupId=9

N ITI Full Abo ~ 40 EUR
http://n.pl/nsklep/promocje/allinclusive

and, and ...

Only those 3 cards is 120 EUR and are available only for Polish customers.

What do you think?

These are real cards?
   
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12-October-2012, 00:03

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Last days in this forum i noticed that many people have 5, 6 or more cards.

Who can afford so many subscriptions.

Examples:
Cyfra + Full Abo ~ 50 EUR
http://cyfraplus.pl/zamow_cyfre.html

Polsat Full Abo ~ 30 EUR
http://www.cyfrowypolsat.pl/oferta/t...ckageGroupId=9

N ITI Full Abo ~ 40 EUR
http://n.pl/nsklep/promocje/allinclusive

and, and ...

Only those 3 cards is 120 EUR and are available only for Polish customers.

What do you think?

These are real cards?
fake completly fake
they use oscam and make this cards as their locall but really they seek it from other ppl
if you are advanced there is a easy way to check this
   
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12-October-2012, 00:52

well ..i have Cyfra+ Full ABO with HD/3D & XXL this cost me €650 per year
i also have Polsat pre-pay ABO Full card with HD/3D and blue hustler this is €90 per 3 months and yes its very expensive and no im not faker or payserver either and i can prove my cards are legit and real and anyyone that shares with me knows im just a complete crazy satellite freak

i also have Sky Abo full HD/3D with options Setanta/Espn/TVX/Redhot/Racing/Boxnation
etc.. this sub cost is split amoung my family and i just pay for WWE PPV's myself .

ive subscribed with Tring for past 3 years its not expensive for what it is and lots of live EPL and movies which i like myself .
i have JSC Via4 card aswell but my brother pays for that card each year and did so previously when it was called ART Sport many years ago .

So there you have it but i do understand your concerns and its very possible indeed that oscam abuse is a very real problem and im pretty certain there is very few genuine people like myself that exist anymore unfortunatley that just have a real passion for satellite as a hobby .. and.. have an honest genuine enuff reason for having 5/6 or more expensive local cards its really unlikley no doubt about it and i fully understand that you say this is all fake Oscam abuse or payservers of course that is a vaild point that i will not argue with at all .

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12-October-2012, 02:03

I agree barney..its mostly the nds packages like viasat/sky uk/skyde that set alarm bells ringing when they claim to have all 3 or more as why in the hell would you have all that unless you are a payserver or the latter (faker) as it just does not make sense as you can easily just exchange your expensive packages...there are lots of cheap packages out there like jsc/porn etc as barney says so i would not judge peers with non expensive packages but you do have a point poster!
   
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12-October-2012, 08:19

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Originally Posted by nopayserver View Post
Last days in this forum i noticed that many people have 5, 6 or more cards.

Who can afford so many subscriptions.

Examples:
Cyfra + Full Abo ~ 50 EUR
http://cyfraplus.pl/zamow_cyfre.html

Polsat Full Abo ~ 30 EUR
http://www.cyfrowypolsat.pl/oferta/t...ckageGroupId=9

N ITI Full Abo ~ 40 EUR
http://n.pl/nsklep/promocje/allinclusive

and, and ...

Only those 3 cards is 120 EUR and are available only for Polish customers.

What do you think?

These are real cards?
1} Like you write this 120 euro in month for polish people is big becouse this around 500zl in poland. But when person live in England, Switzerland, Austria, Germany this no big price becouse in job have more 1500 euro in poland in job have 600-700.
2} I know 1-2 person who have all this in lokal im test big number time in past and im no find reason to write " he have fake card ". But real problem in cs now is posibility made by oscam very bad behaviors.
3} Now in oscam is possible still card form other [full card and all sid]; steal only 1-4 sid in this way people made full card but in real have no have full option. is possible break reshare level [you gived 1 he will be have 2 ].
4} Other way is used by people CSP and multics; this person exchanged Nline and add to this emulator and have card in hop0


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12-October-2012, 09:40

Barney, you're right. I have 3 cards and also are not fake.

Carolina also has a right. In Poland 120 Eur is very much.
But people have 2 cards Cyfra +, 2 N ITI ... it is already ~ 1300 Eur + ~ 1000 Eur = 2300 Eur per year
   
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Barney, you're right. I have 3 cards and also are not fake.

Carolina also has a right. In Poland 120 Eur is very much.
But people have 2 cards Cyfra +, 2 N ITI ... it is already ~ 1300 Eur + ~ 1000 Eur = 2300 Eur per year
1} I think all this is possible test; ecm time; node id from whot is going card; look in oscam whot version and whot have.
2} I think biger problem is person who used CSP or multics if you look to turkish forum you see person who have 20-30 card and write in topic about orginal card i think this is very crazy exchanged on this turkisch site.

Whot you will be think when person write you; i have 3 card you add him but when you add you see 10 cards and he write you I have this card made from Nline.
3 card real and 7 card made from Nline and thsi write you ?
You will be think this is bad or good perr ?


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12-October-2012, 21:51

Just to add my little bit > ....

As i have always said you run your server your way. Pick and choose your peers carefully. Quality over quantity ever time.
If you have no cards, one card, or ten. So what !
I you don`t like the fact that there are people out there such as "Barney" ( sorry to use you as an example ) that on the face of it set the "alarm bell ringing". Ask them the questions....
Card share is based on trust, if you think that somebody is faking cards don`t share with them. Simple.

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12-October-2012, 23:27

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well ..i have Cyfra+ Full ABO with HD/3D & XXL this cost me 650 per year
i also have Polsat pre-pay ABO Full card with HD/3D and blue hustler this is 90 per 3 months and yes its very expensive and no im not faker or payserver either and i can prove my cards are legit and real and anyyone that shares with me knows im just a complete crazy satellite freak

i also have Sky Abo full HD/3D with options Setanta/Espn/TVX/Redhot/Racing/Boxnation
etc.. this sub cost is split amoung my family and i just pay for WWE PPV's myself .

ive subscribed with Tring for past 3 years its not expensive for what it is and lots of live EPL and movies which i like myself .
i have JSC Via4 card aswell but my brother pays for that card each year and did so previously when it was called ART Sport many years ago .

So there you have it but i do understand your concerns and its very possible indeed that oscam abuse is a very real problem and im pretty certain there is very few genuine people like myself that exist anymore unfortunatley that just have a real passion for satellite as a hobby .. and.. have an honest genuine enuff reason for having 5/6 or more expensive local cards its really unlikley no doubt about it and i fully understand that you say this is all fake Oscam abuse or payservers of course that is a vaild point that i will not argue with at all .

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thats the truth there are few of many from this site who has 4 - 5 cards in locall and doing this for hobby i didnt say no
but who give 4 - 5 locall cards for exchange to one poor locall nobody who have reall cards... only the N line fakers and oscam players give alot of it because they sure they can get any other locall if they provider alot of it
usually ppl who have few localls ask first *which card do you want from me*
but as i say there are few ways to check is that person give his locall or not :)
   
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12-October-2012, 23:39

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Just to add my little bit > ....

As i have always said you run your server your way. Pick and choose your peers carefully. Quality over quantity ever time.
If you have no cards, one card, or ten. So what !
I you don`t like the fact that there are people out there such as "Barney" ( sorry to use you as an example ) that on the face of it set the "alarm bell ringing". Ask them the questions....
Card share is based on trust, if you think that somebody is faking cards don`t share with them. Simple.

Rant over .
Exactly and that is the best post ive read in quite some time aswell , excellent point and i could not agree more with you everything you mention is accurate and correct and sure there are lots and lots of fakers and bad peers but its very wrong to assume just everyone is instantly a faker or bad peer as this is your point and you have explained it to perfection aswell unfortunatley it can take some time and patience to find very good genuine peers but no doubt its worthwhile .
Very nice post PLAN_B m8'y .
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