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Sky Italia began testing Videoguard 4 - 14-July-2010, 02:40

Sky Italia began testing Videoguard 4

Italian satellite pay-TV Sky Italia has launched trials of a new access card working in a conditional access system, n.d.s Videoguard 4. The new system is blocking the illegal sharing of cards (card sharing), which became a big hit.

Sky Italia platform offers programs from the Hot Bird satellite at the orbital position 13E. It is not known when the new system Videoguard 4 fully operational.

EMM: CA ID: 0x0919 Videoguard (n.d.s) - CA PID: 0x012D - NDS2

EMM: CA ID: 0x093B Videoguard (n.d.s) - CA PID: 0x012D - NDS3

EMM: CA ID: 0x09CD Videoguard (n.d.s) - CA PID: 0x012D - NDS4



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15-July-2010, 14:22

Crap, this means the end of SKY cardsharing,

I understand, the card sends info about who is watching,
hoe do they transfer this to SKY?


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15-July-2010, 16:05

How can they see what you are watching? DVB is a one way street, the information is only received through your receiver. Most receivers don't have capabilities for internet through DVB-S, so I think that that information can be considered FUD.

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15-July-2010, 16:52

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How can they see what you are watching? DVB is a one way street, the information is only received through your receiver. Most receivers don't have capabilities for internet through DVB-S, so I think that that information can be considered FUD.

//Shalafi
If he add Finger Print will be posible see from whot card [ number box; etc] is going DW becouse algo willbe modifing ecm from card.
If in cs will be person who will be work to sky provider all sky card in cs will be easy find [ find number box; person who is this box] next step will be phone sky to you and you hear words '"You on cs !!!! "
   
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06-August-2010, 17:26

Yes it very possible add fingerprint.
   
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06-August-2010, 18:44

I don't think so, this history of the 09CD is out since May and started when Sky IT launched the USB stick for the DVB-T.
According to other forums seems this ID is used for the USB stick in order to get the dedicated EPG and Channel List for the DTT bouquets.
None of the channels provided by the USB stick is directly managed by the Murdoch's company, so the only way to send the updates to the USB stick is the Satellite trunk and using a dedicated ID created ad-hoc for this purpose.
The fingerprint option is already available but not implemented due to the restriction applied by the Italian Authority about the single decoder.
In fact there is another OFFICIAL decoder for SKY IT, it's called XDOME and is 99% compatible with the SKY features but the interactive services.
If they introduce the fingerprint then all the users running an OFFICIAL CARD and a NON-OFFICIAL decoder will no longer able to watch what they paid for.
Till the Italian Prime Minister is also the owner of the major non-public broadcasters in Italy, for Murdoch will be really hard to implement all the restriction and the monopolistic method he's used to push somewhere else (read UK).


   
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20-August-2010, 18:57

09cd is the final NDS 4 card, sky germany started with 09c4 which is the older sister card and the whole point is to make a slow card working on fast receivers. Here we go, what 09cd is, it's a clone of 09c4 with a build in anti cascading solution (similiar to Irdeto sid limit) only on a different way. This is the beginning of the end of our beloved hobby but hey at least we'll get rid of payservers :D :D :D :D
   
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20-August-2010, 20:37

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09cd is the final NDS 4 card, sky germany started with 09c4 which is the older sister card and the whole point is to make a slow card working on fast receivers. Here we go, what 09cd is, it's a clone of 09c4 with a build in anti cascading solution (similiar to Irdeto sid limit) only on a different way. This is the beginning of the end of our beloved hobby but hey at least we'll get rid of payservers :D :D :D :D
Friend now this card "work" slow in cardservers becouse suport this card is no good in this cardservers card is very new only one person on oscam forum have this card and try test and help. I think if in near time will be more this card will be very beter becouse developer start suport this card.
If provider sky no have hiden atacks on this card i think will be good but all will be see in near time.

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20-August-2010, 20:41

Quote:
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09cd is the final NDS 4 card, sky germany started with 09c4 which is the older sister card and the whole point is to make a slow card working on fast receivers. Here we go, what 09cd is, it's a clone of 09c4 with a build in anti cascading solution (similiar to Irdeto sid limit) only on a different way. This is the beginning of the end of our beloved hobby but hey at least we'll get rid of payservers :D :D :D :D
Think positive :)
I've seen the underlined sentence million of times since 1994 when SKY was encrypted in Irdeto and the knowledge was shared through the BBS using a 300 baud modem :D :D :D :D

Someone is testing the card and seems to be compatible with some EMUs so I'm not worried at all also due to the fact that I'm still running a 919 and till now I've not received any replacement card, including the 093b one...
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22-August-2010, 10:26

They are testing 8w.

The testing channels are called SATNET and some numbers.

2 days ago i switched to the channel and it decode and looked at my ecm info.

it said

SKY ITALIA 13E

ECM TIME:889

the channel stands

SKY italia
SATNET and some test colors now the channels is down.

and it wont decode NOT GOOD :)
   
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