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db800 hd clone or not - 28-March-2009, 11:56

Hi , i have a dm800 hd , and want to know if i have a clone or not

i've foud a few sites ( google,, how to recognise a clone dm800) where differences are explained BUT, i have another model i think can sombody help me?

here are some fotos of mine dm800

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modem of dm800 , in a "real" dm800 there sould be a chip on the top of pcb,, but a clone sould NOT have a plastic film on pcb ,, ????

mine has no chip but has a plastic film



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a heatsink on the chip on the mb sould only be there in a clone ?

mine has one



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the skrews above the scart and between the in/out sould be chrome in a clone and black in a "real" one

mine are chrome



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at the underside there are less ribbons in a clone (a clone sould have 2 rows of ribbons)

mine sould be like a "real" one



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skrews used to open top , i dont know if these a real or not



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and now the most important (i think) the bootloader ,.

bootloader #70 sould detect clones , im running gemini 4.1 and bootloader 70

it shows 70 when i boot in stop mode in oled display and in bios (telnet)

it goes and i have no faillure like CA... what should happen with a clone





can sombody help me out , i really want to know if i bought i clone because i paid the normal price , and if it is a clone i want to bring it back , i want to keep using gemini

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28-March-2009, 12:02

To me, it appears like you have a clone box, but probably one of the newer revisions. From what I have heard is that the clone manufacturers have recently managed to copy the sim which means bootloader 70+ now works on the clone boxes. The main thing which gives it away as a clone is the heatsink on the chip, I've not seen any genuine boxes with this on.

Out of curiosity, where did you purchase this box from and how much did it cost?
   
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28-March-2009, 12:08

i bought it from a turkish sat dealer in Amersfoort (nl) its cost the regular price 429 euries , that wy i want to know if its a clone i want a real one for that price
   
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28-March-2009, 12:46

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i bought it from a turkish sat dealer in Amersfoort (nl) its cost the regular price 429 euries , that wy i want to know if its a clone i want a real one for that price
typical aint it m8 ...would nt trust people like that as far as i could throw them just typical from a ?
   
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28-March-2009, 13:17

so i found out that tis box IS a clone !!!!!!!!

its a new rev clone with a cloned SIM so the bootloader doesnoet recognise it as one ,but sees it as a genuine.. so clone detection trough bootloader is not faillure proof
   
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28-March-2009, 20:03

hello
just trying to put a gemini image if it's ok, so it's a real box if isn't case u have probaly a fake copy
good luck


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28-March-2009, 21:15

Its definitely a clone , but because iets a relative new clone with a cloned sim , it runs gemini 4.1 and bl #70 with no problems ..
   
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29-March-2009, 22:49

did you get a leaflet with it about dreamload and a special serial number.


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30-March-2009, 19:36

bl 72 doesn't work with these "improved" sims
so be cautions when you upgrade to a bootloader 72 image
   
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31-March-2009, 02:18

I have genuine dm800 and yours is def different to mine your is def a clone m8 sorry to tell you that m8..
   
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