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Unhappy DM clones - 21-July-2009, 13:00

It seems that a lot of people are getting ripped off by the chinese clone DM boxes. These copies very rarely work properly for long, if at all.

Some people obviously would prefer to buy a clone & take their chances, bearing in mind the price difference between original & clone, but a lot of peeps are buying clones thinking that they are the real thing.

In order to help anyone else who would like to buy the real thing, I have copied an alleged bad traders page from the official DM importers.



Counterfeit selling Websites

NEWS 10.06.2009

Dream announces launch of new verification system

Dream-Multimedia has developed an innovative verification system for its customers.
A plug-in can be started on the Dreambox, which will display a verification number.
This number can then be entered on our website to obtain immediate information
about whether or not you have an original Dreambox or a forgery.
For this reason, we will forgo the Dream security holograms on our receivers and packaging from now on.
With this measure we want to continuously optimise our customer support and avoid uncertainties in the future

We (Dream Multimedia GmbH) are going to institute legal proceedings against all vendors of these forgeries.
This is also for the sake of protecting our retailers.
If you can provide us with information pertaining to vendors of forgeries, please feel free to contact us via e-mail:
[email protected]

dreambox.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox500c.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshops.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satellite-receiver.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-cable.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dm500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxmagic.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-seller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxdeals.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbseller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satsun.biz - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty
They even state "we "SatSun" have a strict NO RETURNS policy for any product.
Under no circumstance can the unsuitable items regards to change in preference or bought in error
can the product be returned for an exchange, or a cash refund" - nice one!

linuxsat.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbmonkey.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

farango.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshop.org - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty


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how to find out - 21-July-2009, 13:32

how do you find out it's fake?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimuk View Post
It seems that a lot of people are getting ripped off by the chinese clone DM boxes. These copies very rarely work properly for long, if at all.

Some people obviously would prefer to buy a clone & take their chances, bearing in mind the price difference between original & clone, but a lot of peeps are buying clones thinking that they are the real thing.

In order to help anyone else who would like to buy the real thing, I have copied an alleged bad traders page from the official DM importers.



Counterfeit selling Websites

NEWS 10.06.2009

Dream announces launch of new verification system

Dream-Multimedia has developed an innovative verification system for its customers.
A plug-in can be started on the Dreambox, which will display a verification number.
This number can then be entered on our website to obtain immediate information
about whether or not you have an original Dreambox or a forgery.
For this reason, we will forgo the Dream security holograms on our receivers and packaging from now on.
With this measure we want to continuously optimise our customer support and avoid uncertainties in the future

We (Dream Multimedia GmbH) are going to institute legal proceedings against all vendors of these forgeries.
This is also for the sake of protecting our retailers.
If you can provide us with information pertaining to vendors of forgeries, please feel free to contact us via e-mail:
[email protected]

dreambox.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox500c.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshops.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satellite-receiver.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-cable.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dm500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxmagic.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-seller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxdeals.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbseller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satsun.biz - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty
They even state "we "SatSun" have a strict NO RETURNS policy for any product.
Under no circumstance can the unsuitable items regards to change in preference or bought in error
can the product be returned for an exchange, or a cash refund" - nice one!

linuxsat.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbmonkey.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

farango.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshop.org - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty
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can you suggest a good site?
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Originally Posted by Nimuk View Post
It seems that a lot of people are getting ripped off by the chinese clone DM boxes. These copies very rarely work properly for long, if at all.

Some people obviously would prefer to buy a clone & take their chances, bearing in mind the price difference between original & clone, but a lot of peeps are buying clones thinking that they are the real thing.

In order to help anyone else who would like to buy the real thing, I have copied an alleged bad traders page from the official DM importers.



Counterfeit selling Websites

NEWS 10.06.2009

Dream announces launch of new verification system

Dream-Multimedia has developed an innovative verification system for its customers.
A plug-in can be started on the Dreambox, which will display a verification number.
This number can then be entered on our website to obtain immediate information
about whether or not you have an original Dreambox or a forgery.
For this reason, we will forgo the Dream security holograms on our receivers and packaging from now on.
With this measure we want to continuously optimise our customer support and avoid uncertainties in the future

We (Dream Multimedia GmbH) are going to institute legal proceedings against all vendors of these forgeries.
This is also for the sake of protecting our retailers.
If you can provide us with information pertaining to vendors of forgeries, please feel free to contact us via e-mail:
[email protected]

dreambox.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox500c.org.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshops.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satellite-receiver.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-cable.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dm500c.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
Appears to be UK based dealer at first glance, but is in fact registered in China.
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxmagic.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreambox-seller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxdeals.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbseller.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

satsun.biz - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty
They even state "we "SatSun" have a strict NO RETURNS policy for any product.
Under no circumstance can the unsuitable items regards to change in preference or bought in error
can the product be returned for an exchange, or a cash refund" - nice one!

linuxsat.co.uk - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dvbmonkey.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

farango.com - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

dreamboxshop.org - Sells counterfeit clone Dreamboxes from China
These products are not genuine and have no Dream Multimedia support or warranty

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21-July-2009, 14:15

Unfortunately, you can`t really tell if it`s fake or not until you get it & inspect it.
I nearly bought what seemed like a genuine one from one of those dodgy sites that I listed, but luckily enough I found the official importers site, satstore.co.uk, which is just up the road from me & saw the site on the list. I drove to the official shop & got a genuine DM800HD PVR.
That`s why I put the list up, so peeps can check where they`re buying from first.
Here is a link to a site that shows a photo spread of the differences. Not sure about live links, so take the gap out of the w`s

w w w.austech.info/dreambox/14505-dm800-genuine-clone-differences.html


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how do you find out it's fake?


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can you suggest a good site?
I got mine from Mark at SatStore. He`s the official importer & supplies the other official shops. There are only 1 or 2 official shops mind. If you ring him he`ll tell you the official sites.
I bought mine from him cuz I could just drive there, (25 miles) & I can take it straight back if it goes wrong !! LOL

Here`s the link. Put the w`s back again

http://***.satstore.co.uk/?gclid=CPT...FQKenAodDjnv3w


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26-July-2009, 23:13

Guys..

dreambox multi media have no way of knowing either.. if it is a clone or a real dreambox..

a friend of mine sent a DM600 clone back to dreambox multimedia and even they could not tell if it was real or fake..

So i would take all this with a pinch of salt..

If Dreambox multimedia dont know if the box is real or fake.. then how is anyone else..

If dreambox multimedia dropped there prices.. then they could stop all these clones being made over night.. but they refuse.. and continue to rip off their customers..

I have 3 clones.. all working 100% and never had any problems.. You will have problems if you flash them with the Gemini image which could time-bomb your box.. Other than that.. ALL CLONES WORK PERFECT...

This is scare tactics to try and get people to buy genuine dreamboxes
   
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a friend of mine sent a DM600 clone back to dreambox multimedia and even they could not tell if it was real or fake..
That's just a rumor.

DMM is putting lots of efforts against clones.

To pretend they cannot make the difference between a real and a fake is just a total joke.

DMM knows even very well each revision of its models, just like the new 8000DM v.1.2.

They even put sim card chips to prevent fakes.

So, c'mon, it's just a bloody rumor.


And regarding prices, well the CEO of DMM needs cash to buy such luxury cars as the Mercedes McLaren SLR convertible, that burned recently in front of his office.

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28-July-2009, 00:11

Sorry bud..

I totally disagree.. I have seen the paper work that was sent back with my pals DM600..

So.. NO.. No Rumour..

Get your hands on one.. and send it to them.. and see for yourself..

Reguards the DM800.. They can do what they like.. The DM800 has already been cloned.. and the chinese are already working on the DM8000

As i said above.. they will only stop this when they lower their prices.. and become more realistic..

Clones are fast becoming more popular than the real DMM machines..

No sympathy for DMM.. Thay deserve all they get... for being so greedy for money..

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simply nonsense.


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28-July-2009, 09:08

Oh I also wanna rant a bit

I have a DM500 it is defective i contacted dream .... I wanted to choke the customer support.
I bought a clone instead of dealing any further with dreammultimedia and it works great


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my experience with DMM was not so bad; i have a 7025; power supply was heating too much; contacted support for new power supply; within a couple days it was there.

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