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DM800 spot clone - 09-February-2009, 10:53

Hi,

I know there have been already some discutions about DM800 clones and I don't care if they exists on the market and people want to buy them. My issue is when you want to buy an original one and the seller cheat on you by selling a clone pretending it's an original. So you come home, put a Gemini image and can't use your expensive box...

So I'd like to discuss with you how to spot a clone.

Could someone with an original please reply to my question and those who can spot a clone to give share their tricks.

-1- On the back of the original box, are all the screw black or just as on the clone they are all grey except 2 that are black?

-2- What about the hologram, does it turn cyrian when you move it and does it reflect the light or does it remain white whatever how you look at it as on the clones?

-3- What about the package, is the dvi wire within a bag as for the clones?

-4- How is the front pannel fixed (I mean the one behin which you put your card)? 'Cause on the clone it seems not well fixed. it's just cheap plastic you remove and then try to put back

-5- For the issues with the remote control, do the original have the same issue? If not, can the remote controll be used from a distance of about5m or just about 2m as with the clone?

-6- For the barcode on the bottom, is it clear or a bit scratched?

-7- For the user guide, is it black and white with only the front page colored or do they put also some colors within the book?

-8- Last but not least, on the transformer (I'm not sure of the english word but it's the black box on the electric wire), in wich language is it writen and what's writen? Basically on the clone, there are some texts in chineses languange and then you can see "made in China".

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10-February-2009, 06:16

1-all black





2-it's in relief allso




3-DVI in seald bag
4-meh it's preaty sturdy over here

5-5m
6-clear

7-front collor , inside black and white
8-transformer is in chines and eng
Soz for the bad quality "phone cammera :( "
Hope this helps you :)

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11-February-2009, 10:56

Thanks darkpif.

I got my original and was able to check it. So even if both original and clone looks really similar at first, there are some small differences that should allow you to spot a clone.

So basically, based on my observation and darkpif's help, here is how you could spot current latest DM800 clones (from package to inside).

-1- on the original box, the hologram turns cyan, reflects light,.. as explained within the pdf ( http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/im...tyHOLOGRAM.pdf) where the hologram on clones remains white and doesn't reflect the light.

-2- inside the box, you can find a rear panel for C/T tuner, which you don't receive with your clone

-3- The scart to video adapter is sealed within a bag wfor the clones and is not within a bag for the original

-4- The front panel (hidding the smartcard reader) is attached and so you have to open it from top to bottom on originals where it's not attached on the clones

-5- All screws except the 2 ones next the sata are black on the original where you have only 2 black screws on the clones.

-6- on the dreambow, there is also an hologram with same remark as -1-

-7- On clones, you must remain in frot of the dreambox to use the remote control, where you have no issue with originals

-8- on original, the barcode is clear where it can have scratches on the clones

-9- if you open your dreambox, on the clone you can see a heat sink on cpu where there's no heatsink there on my original

-10- Finally, if you install gemini 4.00 or any other image with bootload 70, the clone will be brigged due to clone detection (CA Not found error) where you'll encounter no issue with originals.


If you still have some doubts about your DM, you can send your SN and MAC to dream multimedia service center and they'll will know if it's an original or not.

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11-February-2009, 14:39

i'll not post the link to a different website (competition... eek :p) but steal info from a post i found on *cough*austech*cough*

the genuine on the left and the clone on the right:


Genuine v/s Clone


holograme: genuine v/s clone


back view genuine v/s clone


lower view genuine v/s clone


top view genuine v/s clone


screws genuine v/s clone


power supply genuine v/s clone


internam lodem are different: genuine has chip on top pcb (genuine v/s clone )


mainboard difference genuine v/s clone


and finally sim security device, where genuin is glued in and .. genuine v/s clone



as per this site... well, i have a clone
so far, no complaints, since i'm using nabilo 7 with bootloader 69, and i like the number 69 :-D
   
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