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17-April-2008, 14:57

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My friend as spent countless hours trying to correct it and he did, no soldering was used and he managed to get up and running again by using a Pli image.
Would you care to elaborate on this ? Maybe your "friend" could write a tutorial ?


   
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17-April-2008, 15:56

ok so the clones are beeing detected bij the mac adress

on a telephone you have the imei
what you can change

is it not possible to reprogram your mac adress
so it report as original?
   
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17-April-2008, 16:02

Fact is any new image that comes out from any team from now on
that uses the newest dream multimedia source code from the CVS
will also be affected in this way.

So either you will stick with an older image, or use the newer ones
if you are 100% sure that you have an original dreambox.

Or if you have a clone make sure that from now on you use
the mac address change file /var/init as soon as you flash
any new image.

Stop blaming Gemini People, they just used the latest Dream Multimedia source code.

Dream Multimedia are the ones to blame.

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17-April-2008, 16:25

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If you bought a fake Nike T-shirt and it caught fire and burnt you, is it Nike's fault?

There are plenty of legitimate shops to buy original Dbs..if you have a clone box, then DM do not owe you anything. They released 4.31 for their ORIGINAL boxes only....

and if u buy an original Nike T-shirt and u caught fire,, u wont burn ???
or u wont burn if u dont wear T-shirt at all ??? (no point in these...)

and 2nd. lots of Original DM boxes stucked and locked also with 4.3 versions.... just to know..

--ur post has no answer to the people's problem.. who finally didnt know that they have a clone.
   
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17-April-2008, 18:51

Who is to blame ?
I really don`t care anymore.


Now that this has happened lets try to concentrate on finding a solution.



My story so far>>>
Eagle box running gemini 4.31 bricked out with the rest of you.
Today i have taken the box to my local tv repair shop as there soldering skills are far superior to mine. I have followed the wiring diagram and re checked it twice. Using my cas3 i have tried to re program. The Box is DEAD. looks like its a chip out jobbie.

SMELT you claim your "FRIEND" has fixed his box we await your response?
What has anybody else tried?
Has it worked?
Post your findings and together we will find a solution.


   
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Exclamation 17-April-2008, 20:04

I think you need to understand the case a little more. No physical damage happened to any clone box, the Proprietary boot loader was just deleted, and that is why your clone box's front led is not powering, it will power when you jtag it with a boot loader, All what this is doing is wiping the boot loader clean, which is the property of DMM. It is exactly as microsoft and any other company goes after illegal copies of their software. Your cheap clone was never damaged, but just wiped clean of stolen software.

I can assure you that even if you JTag your clone and get it up and running again, you will never be able to run any new CVS based image on it. And most likely you won't find a none CVS based img publicly available since all the known none-CVS images out there are no-public images.

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17-April-2008, 20:51

ii wasnt affected by this but i find it ironic that the hackers are narked off at beening hacked lol


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sorry but - 17-April-2008, 21:09

[QUOTE=skyblue12345;122737]
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Some dealers were selling fake as original boxes, one I know of in north west London, is that the fault of the buyer ?
With hindsight the answer is simple do not support the gemini team.[/QUOTa
all this come back to north west london shop.one guy got his fake the shop they refused to refund he grassed the shop up dreammaker.
here we go
i know the shop that you are talking about but, i never heard that the eagle is selled like a dreambox,i think u need to investigate before saying bxxxxi , im simple customer like a thousand others, and dreambox killed thousand n thousand of boxes , for me its not fair, they made billions by ripping an idea from nokia after, they want the monopol of the business, where r we going, is dreambox is the next microsoft,google,some other countryes,....
   
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17-April-2008, 21:54

azurautos be careful my friend do not miss quote me.Only half of that post is mine! I do not mention the Eagle as a clone, so before you say i need to get my facts right check yours.
I hope you can spell sorry as i look forward to your apology.


   
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17-April-2008, 22:07

Funny thing is, I heard from a couple of people who had a bricked DM500S also in combination with Gemini 4.31.

Now the fun part, these boxes were all send to DMM for repairs in combination with errors like constant freezing. And yes, they were original DM500S recievers.

So yes, it's a fact that this action was to brick clone versions of the DM500-S (which is btw, illegal in several European countries). However, Gemini doesn't seem to take credit and blames DMM because they supplied the driver(s).

This is really a bad business.


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